In this season finale, Jenn recaps her favorite clips from season 1 of the “You Are A Philanthropist” Podcast. Tune in for Jenn’s countdown of her top 5 favorite lessons from season 1.
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Host Bio
Jenn Klein is a self-proclaimed philanthropist, mother of two boys, Certified Fund Raising Executive (CFRE), Certified Health Coach and independent consultant with Arbonne International. She has committed her 15 years of fundraising experience and personal time to nonprofits that offer a variety of services. Her career has taken her throughout Asia several times, dining with billionaires, and raising millions of dollars. Personally, she role-models giving back to her two young boys through the creation of a community farm in her town, gathering cans several times a year from her neighbors, participating in her children’s schools, and more. To learn more about Jenn, go here.
Show Notes
Counting down the top five episodes of this season are: Episode 12 with Ron Dudley, Episode 10 with Paul Ott, Episode 2 with Tanya Gauthier, Episode 5 with John Fisher and Episode 9 with Melissa Prendergast.
Transcript
JK: Welcome to the You Are a Philanthropist podcast. This is episode 16 and today we’re counting down the top five snippets of conversations from season one.
JK: Hello, philanthropists. It’s good to be back. I missed you. I have been taking care of my young children this summer and enjoying the sunshine. I hope you have had a wonderful summer getting back into the swing of things now with school starting again and the fall and back to work. And I hope that you’re doing well. I really am eager to share with you the top five of my favorite snippets from season one. So starting off season one with the top five is Ron Dudley from Episode 12. I really want you to listen in on Ron. He’s a very wise man. He’s a housing insecure man from Washington, DC who sells the homeless newspaper Street Sense Media News. And he is so smart and so wise and let’s listen in.
Ron Dudley: Because I know we all go through the same thing no matter high or low. We all go to the same thing and at the end of the day, we got to eat, sleep, breathe, think, learn, teach, love. That’s the main thing. We got to love. So that’s the main thing is people show me so much love, I have to show them love back. You know what I mean? The community, they take care of me and my kids. I have to make sure– say I might not be able to feed your kid but I might get to save your kid from getting hit by a car. You know what I mean?
JK: Yeah.
RD: You know what I mean?
JK: Yes.
RD: You know what I mean?
JK: Actually, Paul Ott, a couple episodes ago said the same thing. Is that you don’t know strangers but sometimes you might need that stranger because they’re just there in the moment you need them.
RD: Right, right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. And so many times, just good morning change, make people– you know what I mean? Just the word good morning and just– good morning. I love good morning. I’m a morning guy because I mean, good afternoon and goodnight is so hard, so there’s like something about saying, “Good morning.” Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. No matter how bad you’re feeling, good morning. A person saying, “Good morning.” That’s a great sign.
JK: That’s such a good point, especially because the morning represents this ability to start fresh, doesn’t it?
RD: Yeah. Yeah. And just being morning guy. I notice after 12 o’clock things change. “Good afternoon.”
You get tired. Yeah. People. All people. There’s just something about– I’m a morning person. Yeah, like I said I just appreciate the people just speak. Because people don’t have to speak to me. A lot of people rush in and so you don’t want to judge people because they don’t speak. Because you might make the wrong judgment. I learned that because a person was deaf. I thought they had a problem but they were deaf. You know what I mean? So you think they have a problem but the whole time they’re deaf. So you never know what people got on their minds or just don’t judge them, because I always know if 10 people don’t speak, 100 people are. So you have 90. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? And I tried that. Those people that haven’t spoke for six years and they mean that .So they’ll rather speak to a dog before they speak to me. But if I worried about that, I wouldn’t be still selling the paper. They’ll be in control of me. So I still speak to them, even though I know they don’t speak. You know what I mean? So I still speak.
JK: That’s amazing.
RD: So I still speak even though– you know what I mean? So I still speak.
JK: That’s beautiful.
RD: Because coming to work make me feel good, make me feel happy. If you don’t speak and I try to focus on that, it could bring me down. If I’m down then everybody could be down. You never know. So it’s uplifting. I just want to be uplifted and uplifting people too. So. But I know just a good morning can take you far. A good word, a positive attitude, and being real too. It’s just being real. And like I said, I know I still sold the paper when I didn’t make any money. That’s how I knew I loved it. I thought, “Okay. When you love something, if you do it and don’t care about the money.” And like I said, a lot of times you got people with cups– got panhandlers around you. I had to get in the panhandler’s shoes. You know what I mean? I had to get on the ground with them to see what they’re doing. So I had to look at these people– Instead of judging them, I had to really– okay, let me– because I’ve got a place to live. But I do know what it’s like to not have. You know what I mean? So it’s like you don’t want to judge people by the wrong you don’t want to say the wrong thing. But still you want to treat people– you want people to treat other people with respect. Just because you’re shaking a cup, that don’t mean you’re right. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? We want to respect each other.
JK: Awesome. So Ron, our last guest was actually a nine-year-old girl. And she shared about her inspiration to give to other people, particularly to her local food pantry. And we talked about the power of a smile. And I was particularly thinking about the power of a children’s smile. I’m just curious if you have any thoughts on that.
RD: Man, I love seeing children smile. Because if the children smile, then the parents smile, most of the time. Because somebody got to teach them that. Because, like I said, a smile can– because I tell you, when you feeling down, you see a smile on a person’s face, it can uplift you. It can lift you up. It can change your– Because you might be going to commit suicide that day.
JK: Yeah.
RD: But a person said the right thing to make you smile, change your attitude and say– because that’s what happened to me. When I’m on my way to work, some days– to me It’s like when you walk in. A person offer you a ride, would you say no because you appreciate the fact that you have everything that God gave you? You’re not trying to be disrespectful. You just appreciate your feet because you know people in wheelchairs. So you walk out the door, person say, “You need a ride?” You like, “No, I’m good.” And then as you walk in before you get fired– you know you got to live in a ghetto. Somebody outside the ghetto was speaking to you on the way to work. You know what I mean? That doesn’t happen to people in the ghetto. Nobody speak to you. You know what I mean? You got to keep going. But me, before I get downhill, “Hey, Ron.”. And when I get close to the job, “Hey, Ron.” Three more people. So three good mornings, three positive. And I just– because I might have just left home where a person stole from me. A person that you live with might’ve just stole from you. So you need to go to work, to stay focused, because the people– you know what I mean? Because you never know what COVID– you never know what people going through. People are going through problems and– I tell people, “Just walk in to work.” When you’ve been working so long, you know people by name, they know you by name. Just walking to work before I get to work. No matter what. I bump into somebody like– well, I didn’t know I was going to bump– but sometimes I think about a person that I haven’t seen in years and as I walk into work, bump into him. So just my way– just work is a positive thing for me. I tell people just selling the newspaper– because selling the newspaper got me the book. That’s why I never stopped selling the newspaper. You can’t forget where you came from. The newspaper got me the book and I love the book but can’t forget the newspaper. You know what I mean?
JK: Well, for that one, I really can’t pick a favorite snippet because it’s just so good and the whole episode’s good. This is my favorite episode. Episode 12. Why don’t you, if you haven’t already, give that whole episode a listen? But I hope you enjoyed this short clip. If I had to pick my favorite piece from what he said, his reminder about the power of a smile, the power of a good morning, and just respecting other people. So our next countdown is number four with Paul Ott from Episode 10. Paul and Ron both talk about how you never know if you’re going to need a stranger and they’re just right there when you need them. And Paul was there for his neighbor. And Paul loves to put good back into the world by having everyday conversations with people from all walks of life. And here’s just a sneak peek at what my whole episode with Paul was about. But this conversation he has with us about time and using it wisely is really important. That’s listen in.
Paul Ott: I read this thing a while back – and this might be an old story for a lot of people – but the interesting thing was when Bear Bryant passed on and everyone knows he was the forever, longest, best-ever coach of Alabama football. But when he passed on, he had a piece of paper in his pocket. And it was just a short story. And it said that every day of your life, you wake up, and you look at your bank statement, and you find that you’ve got $86,400, and you can do anything with this money that you want. You can take it and give it to friends. You can burn it. You can buy every luxury, every house that you ever wanted. You can do anything with it. There’s only two rules. At the end of the day, there’s no carryover and at any time, it could stop. And so next morning, wake up, you look in your bank account, there’s a fresh $86,400. Now, if you were to calculate your time when you wake up in the morning, you’ve got twenty four hours to live. That’s 86,400 seconds. How you spend that time? Very, very valuable. You can give it away. You can kill it. You can spend it on strangers. You can spend it on loved ones. You can make calls, write letters, get educated. You can do anything with that time that you want but you have no control when that time will stop. So based on that, you’ve really got to optimize your time and your energies to ways that are memorable, both to yourself and those around you. So anyhow, I always thought that was very, very fascinating. So- –
JK: I never heard that before. That’s a wonderful story. And honestly, that’s a story that’s going to stick with me. That’s such a wonderful imagery.
PO: Oh, thank you. I appreciated it myself and people talk about, “Well, I’ve got a few hours to kill.” And I’m going, “Why would you kill time?” It’s such a gift. You’ve got to spend time. And that kind of goes back to my career with the Federal Bureau of Prisons. Everyone had time. That’s for sure. And how I saw the inmates spend their time was very remarkable. Some made good use of it and then others plotted and planned and schemed as to how they were eventually going to come right back to where they began. So. And that’s where I say everybody’s got a story. I enjoyed my career with the Prison Service. It was challenging every day and there were never a boring day. And if you talk and listen to everyone, everyone does have a story and they’ve got a perspective that I could have never dreamed of. But–
JK: So I wasn’t planning on going this direction but I’m actually curious about what are some of the most memorable connections that you’ve had and stories and people that you’ve met in your time of just chatting with everybody?
PO: Oh, wow. One of them, and it goes back to being, I guess, a neighbor. Every day, every morning– now I’m retired, so I’ve got to stay active. And in the winter, there’s not as much to do outside, so I take this walk and it’s a loop around the neighborhood, which is four miles because it’s a very rural area. And one day it was freezing rain and it was just kind of a nasty day. And I said, “I don’t want to really walk but I’ve got to do something.” So I decided just to walk down to the mailbox and check the mail. Well, I get down to the end of the lane and I said, “Well, that’s two-tenths done. There’s only 3.8 miles left.” So I went ahead and walked around the block. And coming back along, I saw my neighbor and I realized that her groceries were on the sidewalk. So she had gotten home, she put her groceries out, then realized she had to go back to the bank. So I went ahead and– she leaves her door open. So I put all the groceries away and then I noticed she didn’t have any firewood. So I thought, “Well, good grief.” So I walked on home, I got my gator out, I went up, and I filled it up with firewood, and I was going to take it back down and start her fire because the house was getting cold.
PO: As I got down to the end of the lane, I looked up and there was her car upside down. She had come too fast, maybe the road was a little icy or something. I don’t know. But the car had done a 180-degree flip so that it was now facing back the way it had come, but upside down in a rain-swollen ditch. Rushing over, I realized that she is inside and the seat belt is is restricting her breathing. So race back home, get a razor, come back down, cut the seatbelt, stay with her after calling 911. And it was just one of those, this would have never happened had I decided not to walk and decided not to go up and take care of her groceries and do things like that. If she had remained where she was, I don’t think it had been a pleasant ending. So I think–
JK: Oh, my gosh, Paul. I didn’t know that. Now you’re making me tear up. That’s amazing.
PO: Well, it be a– I think it’s the Navajo who say, “If you ever save someone’s life, you now own their soul.” So I just told her, “Your soul belongs to me and I’m going to let you do anything with it you want because I’m not your mama.”
JK: Well, that’s one thing I know about you is you’ve got a great sense of humor. So folks, if there’s one thing you learn from there, let’s not kill time. Let’s spend it wisely. The next in the countdown is number three with Tanya Gauthier from Episode 2. I pulled down a huge chunk of my conversation with her because some people think to themselves and say to others, “I’d really like to start a nonprofit. I’d really like to do something that’s impactful in the world.” And Tanya breaks it down. She makes it sound easy but we know it’s not. And I push her in that direction and remind her that, “Hey, it’s not as easy as it sounds.” Let’s listen in and see what she said.
Tanya Gauthier: It was hard to decide exactly what I wanted. I know I want to do something for my community. I know I want to bring something back. And so I wanted to do a recreational therapy. But how can I do this? And I love taking pictures. So I was like, “You know what? We’re going to take pictures and we are going to make this into a program. We’re going to find a way to do this.” And so doing a lot more research, working with my occupational therapists to understand the program that I can create, getting a mentor. So there are so many different resources that are out there. If you are wanting to start a program, if you’re wanting to build, if you have just an idea. One program that I– one resource that helped me a lot was a program called SCORE. SCORE is a national program that provides you with mentor services that, “Hey, you come up with all these ideas. Where do we start? What do we go from here?” And that definitely helps’ you organize the steps of what to do and where to go next. And that was big for me. And that was a great help. So I decided, “Hey, I want to create a program, recreational therapy. Talk my occupational therapists about that. I love photography. Let’s put this into motion.” I got the name TBIncredible because– traumatic brain injury, I wanted to do a play on words from traumatic brain injury. And you know what? I feel every brain injury survivors, they’re overcomers, achievers, and downright incredible. So, “Hey, we’re incredible.”
TG: So to be incredible, TBI, to be incredible. So TBIncredible. That’s how I got it. I got the logo created. Definitely, I was able to lean on my network and that’s one thing that I share. And I invite everybody to lean on your network when you’re trying to do something. And so I was able to reach out to my college and sent a message like, “Hey, I’m trying to do this nonprofit and it’s for brain injury survivors. I’m not really sure. I don’t know where I’m going yet. Who can help me? I need to build a website, get a logo, everything from scratch.” And so they’re able to help me find somebody to help build my website. Help me with somebody to produce my logo. Go forward. It took a lot of research. I suggest, even if you might need one to get help with legal aid or more professional guidance. That’s totally fine. I did a lot more research on how to become a 501(c)(3). And a lot of the paperwork to become incorporated in my state as well. And to be a certified nonprofit in the nation, in my state and also in the nation.
JK: Tanya, I know you mentioned it’s hard but the steps you outlined make it sound so easy. And I’m just reflecting on the fact about what you’ve accomplished here when you were a West Point cadet and you undergoed such a serious accident and years of recovery from your injury and how inspirational it is to know that you have physically accomplished so much, mentally accomplished so much. And I think you have a job on top of all this, don’t you?
TG: I do. So I am the community engagement manager for the Motor Vehicle Commission in the state of New Jersey. So I deal alot with legislation and different events for the community. And so I mean, I love being out there and I love helping people. And so that is something that I do for work and I’m so glad I brought that attitude and everything into my nonprofit. And so definitely helping people. I mean, it’s my mantra to keep going and keep pushing and just there’s always something to do. And how can you help?
JK: That’s amazing. Just getting into a little bit more about founding a nonprofit. I had the opportunity to be a founding board member of a nonprofit in my town. And it took an immense amount of work by many volunteers. And I’m just curious, you said you do have a community of helpers that support you. And I’m just curious what they do, how they support you, either through donations or through helping with the workshops you do?
TG: I do have a lot of family support as well through photography workshops. My trained photographers that come out and help are all volunteers and they’re all veterans that help in the community. Yes, it is. It’s a lot of paperwork and it’s a lot of work to do. And that’s where it comes with your tenacity and your motivation, your push. Because if you want this and something that wakes you up in the morning that burns your fire and keeps you going, you’ll find ways. And there’s mentorship help. So my SCORE mentors have helped me. My family have helped me. Donors’ money has helped a lot, building the program. Because there are certain fees that you will pay your state. There are certain fees that you will pay the IRS. There are certain fees that are involved with just building your brand as well. And all the help is great and it builds the brand as well.
JK: That’s awesome. Yeah, I just want to reiterate that not everybody has the time to commit to founding a nonprofit but even if we do an hour a week to help a nonprofit like TBIncredible or food pantry or any of our favorite charities that we enjoy making donations to or what they are doing in our communities, this really adds value to our world. And I just, I’m curious about the recommendations you would make to our listeners about how to make a difference in their community and in our world.
TG: That’s a great question. For me, it was probably the worst thing that happened to me was my brain injury. That’s where you build on and that’s where you go forward from there. I mean, life is 20% of what happens to you and 80% of how you react to it and putting it all together and building up from there. Again, I turned my situation into something positive. And so I inspire everybody who’s going through something to know that it’s okay. And to keep going and keep pushing. And to know that you can always turn things around. I mean, 11 years post my injury, I still go to therapy every Tuesday morning. And that’s ongoing. And I mean, probably for another 10 years. Who knows? But however, it’s not something to be sad about or mad about, because that’s the challenges life gives you and how you deal with them. And so my first event, we had 15 members. Looking at the virtual event, hopefully we can reach out to 100 members. Next year, post-COVID, next event, 2,000 members. Who knows? Who knows? But to know that this is great. And to keep going and keep pushing and hopefully be able to reach out to more people and get them more involved.
JK: I love that you mentioned your future dreams for TBIncredible. And I would like to just close out show today with you sharing about what keeps you up at night, how you’re solving that problem in the world, and what your dreams are for the traumatic brain injury community and what TBIncredible. So I know that’s a lot of questions.
TG: So my ultimate dream is to get brain injury better recognized. Roughly every year, there is 2.8 million cases of traumatic brain injury survivors every year. And that’s only traumatic brain injury and there’s mild, moderate and severe. So 2.8 million of severe. So there’s many people that are brain injured. And so to understand the challenges that we all face and it’s the most invisible handicap there is but we still go through it and we’re still managing. I would love for insurance companies to allow more programs to go forward and to be funded and people can participate in them. Because as one of the most invisible handicaps, there’s no real book or blueprint on how to fix this or what do you need. And this all pertains to each person and the recovery rate is different. So it’s also been my dream to have TBIncredible to expand to many different states, to many different countries. To keep this program going and to have people involved. Know that there’s a safe space for them to recover, to use art as a medium to help them recover. To grow and to live.
JK: Wow, Tanya. That is a beautiful vision for what you see for the traumatic brain injury community. And I’m so hopeful that the listeners of this podcast today are going to help you in going to see your vision. And I just want to remind everybody to go to the website tbincredible.com. And if you feel like this has made a difference in the traumatic brain injury community and this is an area that you feel you can make a difference in too, I ask you to support them by going to tbincredible.com/donate. And Tanya, you’re an inspiration. I’m so thankful that we connected and I hope to get an update from you weeks ahead from now hearing about that greater vision that you had. That it would be accomplished. But for now, it’s amazing what you’ve done. It’s amazing what you started from scratch. And just as somebody who is just a citizen of the world, I want to thank you for making a difference for people who really need it.
TG: Thank you.
JK: If there’s anybody who’s inspirational, it’s Tanya. She’s a United States military academy at West Point graduate. After having a really traumatic brain injury while at West Point. And if there’s anybody who can overcome, she’s one we can look to for inspiration. Number two in the countdown is John Fisher. And this was very insightful and very relatable to right now. I’m not going to say anything further. I’ll wrap it up at the end but I’m hoping you understand how impactful this really is.
John Fisher: I’ve always liked to see people’s passion. What are you passionate about? And are you working toward that passion? And I think if all of us were to– there was a statement years ago by President George Herbert Walker Bush. And he called it the thousand points of light. Well, those thousand points of light are each person in your community who is just trying to do the one thing that they’re passionate about. And whether it be Little League or whether it be in my situation, the Delaware Valley School Board. But if you’re doing that thing that you’re passionate about, the world becomes a better place. And when you realize that the vast majority of people are good, hardworking people looking to make a better life for themselves, It’s a wonderful thing. Because when you look at the news, you would think the world is falling apart. Everyone is hating each other and everyone is mad and angry. And it’s just not true. When you get around people and you find out what they’re passionate about, you realize how much good there is in the world. That, to me, is something that is terribly lacking in the media business is that they don’t show enough of the good that’s going on and the miracles that take place every day in people’s lives. If I had a vision for a better world, it would be for people to stop watching as much on the news, whether it’s CNN or Fox or whatever station you listen to and go out there and meet people. And you’ll realize they’re going to give you a big smile. And as you get to know them, like you said, they’re going to give you that big hug. And they’re going to say what they are passionate about. And you’re going to learn what they’re suffering from.
JF: People want you to know. And just like you and I, there are times in life when we suffer. And then we really need those folks. So most of the people I’ve met over time are very special, unique individuals. And very few of them are what you see on TV of who’s evil and who’s bad and who’s a hater and who’s not a hater. The vast majority of people are just wonderful, special, unique individuals. And I enjoy getting to know people and I like to talk to them and I like to talk with them. So it’s been a wonderful 20 years for me on the school board. We’ve had lots of people who have come in and out of my life and I’ve been fortunate to learn from each of them. So the vision for a better world is get out there in reality. Get out of your house, get into a building with other people who have like-minded passions and talk to them and be civil with them and understand where their life is coming from. And you’ll hear the joys in their life. And you’ll also hear what’s going on in their lives in terms of who’s suffering and what are they suffering from. All of us eventually suffer from some type of health problem. And when people are suffering from health issues, they certainly need an ear to listen to them. So listening is very important as you’re getting involved in any type of organization. In fact, you probably do better to listen than the talk most of the time. And then to understand where people’s lives are coming from.
JK: Wow, I was not expecting that answer. I haven’t heard that you want the greater vision of the world to be people expressing their passions. I did, as I mentioned, have that guest, Jessica Brand, who talked about loneliness being an epidemic. She said that she created a cookbook club to get people around the dinner table. And once you’re around the dinner table, you’re sharing food, you’re sharing this delicious meal you had, you’re sharing laughter. And with seven billion people in the world, there’s so many people to meet, there’s so much diversity. And when we reach out to other people who are in need or when we are in need, it’s such an important aspect of community and really what our world needs is more kindness. There’s so many people spreading the word about the importance of kindness. And I hope in some way that this podcast does break through the media news of all the negativity and reminds all of us that there are so many people in the world that are making small and large impacts in their own ways every day, that aren’t getting the credit. And I want to thank you for being here. I want to thank you for all your service of your community.
JK: So folks, if there’s anything that kind of summarizes what we’re going through right now with all the horrible news. And what we need to be doing, it is really get rid of the negativity and start talking to people and go with what your heart says. Go with what your passions. Now the last– my favorite quote of the season is from Melissa Prendergast from Episode 9. This really summarizes what this podcast is all about and I’m really happy that she said it so succinctly for us. This is a three-minute clip. Let’s listen in.
JK: So it really excites me that you are raising four children to be inspired and be excited about philanthropy. They’re the future. And it shows how important philanthropy is, how exciting philanthropy is, that everyone can do it, as you said. And that these youth of today are going to bring us into the future of philanthropy. And my goal with this podcast is to really inspire more people to join the table, to join all of us. And, I just, I’m encouraged really by your leadership and your role modeling for your children.
Melissa Prendergast: Thank you, Jenn. I think what you’re doing is fabulous. And as I call it a can-do philanthropy. You’re getting the message out there that anyone can do this type of work. I mean, there aren’t many roles in life, right, where you can just wake up, get out of bed, and decide to change the world. You can do this here. Philanthropy is one of those things that you can wake up and get out of bed and decide, “I’m going to be a philanthropist and I’m going to do something to change the world.” I mean, a botanist, a scientist, an archaeologist, a paleontologist, all these things you need to go to school for. And not that you shouldn’t strive to be one of these things but a philanthropist, you can wake up one day and say, “I can do it.”
JK: Oh my gosh. I love that. No one’s put it so succinctly. And I love that I have this vision of waking up and having that can-do attitude, especially today when we’re all so isolated and the media is very negative and the politics are ugly. To be able to open your eyes first thing in the morning and say, “What do I want to do to change today? What can I do with the resources, either my time or my financial resources, to make that change today in at least one person’s life?”
MP: Right. And when we were deciding what to do for the heroes that work with the COVID patients, Jessica and I both thought because of the pandemic, they might not be able to take the cookies, right? We don’t know what the actual sanitation rules are with the hospital. And the pandemic changes things. But I think what we learned and what Jessica learned, especially as a middle schooler, as a fifth-grade child, was ask, reach out. The worst that they can say is no. And then we move on and we figure out. And when we reached out, the response was so overwhelmingly positive that we realized nothing ventured, nothing gained. Right?
JK: Yeah, so have no fear, embrace it, pivot when you need to, keep going. Right?
MP: Absolutely. For sure.
JK: Well, guys, that is the season in a nutshell. And I hope that if you didn’t listen to the whole season, you enjoyed this summary of the top five snippets of my favorite conversation. Everybody was a good guest. And if you haven’t listened to season one, I encourage you to go back. If you enjoyed this, I hope that you would rate, review, and subscribe, and share, and tell your friends about it. This is really important work that we’re doing together, you as my listener and me as the host. But most importantly, our guests are really feeding us with all this positivity. Let’s keep it going. So share this. And you can also reach back out to me. I’d love for you to email me at jklein, J-K-L-E-I-N, at youareaphilanthropist.com. Thank you so much for listening. I can’t wait to show you season two. It’s coming out in a few weeks. I will surprise you with my new guests that season.
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